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		By: allesl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2023 19:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-430700&quot;&gt;Joaquin Closet&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for sharing. Language learning is definitely a nuanced process influenced by several factors.

You rightly point out factors like individual attitudes, learning environments, and cultural nuances. These all influence the language learning experience. I think it&#039;s still OK to classify language acquisition into 5 stages... but a one-size-fits-all approach is still inadequate when dealing with such a diverse range of learners... that&#039;s because each one has their own unique needs.

Does this article oversimplify teaching and learning English? I agree with you that it does. But still, it can be a useful framework for some.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-430700">Joaquin Closet</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing. Language learning is definitely a nuanced process influenced by several factors.</p>
<p>You rightly point out factors like individual attitudes, learning environments, and cultural nuances. These all influence the language learning experience. I think it&#8217;s still OK to classify language acquisition into 5 stages&#8230; but a one-size-fits-all approach is still inadequate when dealing with such a diverse range of learners&#8230; that&#8217;s because each one has their own unique needs.</p>
<p>Does this article oversimplify teaching and learning English? I agree with you that it does. But still, it can be a useful framework for some.</p>
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		By: Joaquin Closet		</title>
		<link>https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-430700</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2023 16:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is all very subjective. Having taught eight languages to students of all ages, backgrounds, with disabilities (deaf, blind or both), proficiency levels (Zero to C2 and beyond)...PLUS having taught people who resist learning all the way up to teaching top 1%&#039;ers moving into military intelligence (where their learning (or lack thereof) could cost lives, I think you&#039;re being way too cavalier with your groupings/levels, and way too general.

As we all know, a lot goes into teaching language, attitudes are different, time periods for learning (length and duration of course, amount of time per day allotted, etc.), and so many more variables and contingencies too numerous to bore you with here -- it&#039;s a wonder we have any &quot;standards&quot; at all. I think we pattern-seeking humans need something to &quot;center&quot; any subject we teach, to whom, and peg each student on some kind of scale.

For instance, I&#039;ve taught English to blind and deaf 8 year olds who only could speak Portuguese. They learned faster, on average, than many of my best 8 year olds with no disabilities. Why? We&#039;re still trying to find out. Need? Want? Desire? Innate sense? Who knows?

My military intel candidates had six months to learn Arabic. It took me five; the average is eight for a premier, top-of-class student. And, as you can imagine, they had to speak it like it was their mother tongue, with all the nuances and &quot;insider&quot; references with respect to nationality, tribes and context. And if you think that Arabic or Mandarin or Pashto can be analyzed like any run-of-the-mill Western language, you&#039;d be mistaken.

Let&#039;s get serious here and stop categorizing language learning like someone learning the piano. It&#039;s more complicated and takes into account all the things I&#039;ve mentioned, plus cultural norms and customs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all very subjective. Having taught eight languages to students of all ages, backgrounds, with disabilities (deaf, blind or both), proficiency levels (Zero to C2 and beyond)&#8230;PLUS having taught people who resist learning all the way up to teaching top 1%&#8217;ers moving into military intelligence (where their learning (or lack thereof) could cost lives, I think you&#8217;re being way too cavalier with your groupings/levels, and way too general.</p>
<p>As we all know, a lot goes into teaching language, attitudes are different, time periods for learning (length and duration of course, amount of time per day allotted, etc.), and so many more variables and contingencies too numerous to bore you with here &#8212; it&#8217;s a wonder we have any &#8220;standards&#8221; at all. I think we pattern-seeking humans need something to &#8220;center&#8221; any subject we teach, to whom, and peg each student on some kind of scale.</p>
<p>For instance, I&#8217;ve taught English to blind and deaf 8 year olds who only could speak Portuguese. They learned faster, on average, than many of my best 8 year olds with no disabilities. Why? We&#8217;re still trying to find out. Need? Want? Desire? Innate sense? Who knows?</p>
<p>My military intel candidates had six months to learn Arabic. It took me five; the average is eight for a premier, top-of-class student. And, as you can imagine, they had to speak it like it was their mother tongue, with all the nuances and &#8220;insider&#8221; references with respect to nationality, tribes and context. And if you think that Arabic or Mandarin or Pashto can be analyzed like any run-of-the-mill Western language, you&#8217;d be mistaken.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get serious here and stop categorizing language learning like someone learning the piano. It&#8217;s more complicated and takes into account all the things I&#8217;ve mentioned, plus cultural norms and customs.</p>
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		By: Mary Adele		</title>
		<link>https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-423595</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2023 02:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reading this article gave me a deeper understanding about the stages of development, in second language acquisition. I believe this understanding will be helpful to me, in becoming a successful, English Language Teacher.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this article gave me a deeper understanding about the stages of development, in second language acquisition. I believe this understanding will be helpful to me, in becoming a successful, English Language Teacher.</p>
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		By: Catherine Greitzer		</title>
		<link>https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-410507</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 01:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with Steve Tuggle. Going from SPEECH EMERGENCE (Stage 3) where the student speaks simple sentences to INTERMEDIATE FLUENCY (STAGE 4???) From my own experience, I think the teacher needs to know that most students really need a lot of HELP in STAGE THREE to move beyond it. To say that &quot;Speech EMERGES (STAGE 3) and the student goes from simple sentences to any kind of FLUENCY (STAGE 4) seems a bit rare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Steve Tuggle. Going from SPEECH EMERGENCE (Stage 3) where the student speaks simple sentences to INTERMEDIATE FLUENCY (STAGE 4???) From my own experience, I think the teacher needs to know that most students really need a lot of HELP in STAGE THREE to move beyond it. To say that &#8220;Speech EMERGES (STAGE 3) and the student goes from simple sentences to any kind of FLUENCY (STAGE 4) seems a bit rare.</p>
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		By: Steve Tuggle		</title>
		<link>https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-398284</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Tuggle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 00:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article doesn&#039;t make any sense to me.  Going from basic sentences in stage 3 to paragraphs with few grammatical errors and proper verb tense?  That transition should have 2 or 3 additional stages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me.  Going from basic sentences in stage 3 to paragraphs with few grammatical errors and proper verb tense?  That transition should have 2 or 3 additional stages.</p>
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		By: Monte Goodwin		</title>
		<link>https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-376050</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monte Goodwin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2023 22:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great read. Very informative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read. Very informative.</p>
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		By: Devon		</title>
		<link>https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-368384</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 23:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article, but I am curious about the suggestion to use the zone of proximal development. As teachers, aren&#039;t we supposed to provide the correct example, rather than mimicking the level of our students? Perhaps I am misunderstanding what the &#039;zone of proximal development&#039; means...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, but I am curious about the suggestion to use the zone of proximal development. As teachers, aren&#8217;t we supposed to provide the correct example, rather than mimicking the level of our students? Perhaps I am misunderstanding what the &#8216;zone of proximal development&#8217; means&#8230;</p>
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		By: Nova McLeod		</title>
		<link>https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-365777</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2022 17:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I found the information very relevant to learning/acquisition of languages across the stages from childhood to adulthood and could relate to the theory. I am more prepared to assist my learners through the stages.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the information very relevant to learning/acquisition of languages across the stages from childhood to adulthood and could relate to the theory. I am more prepared to assist my learners through the stages.</p>
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		By: Elizabeth Zerlin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth Zerlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a foundation for teaching English, every teacher should know the stages of second language acquisition.  Having this knowledge assists with planning lessons that will be of the most value and benefit to the student&#039;s language learning process.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a foundation for teaching English, every teacher should know the stages of second language acquisition.  Having this knowledge assists with planning lessons that will be of the most value and benefit to the student&#8217;s language learning process.</p>
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		By: Carese Murphy		</title>
		<link>https://allesl.com/second-language-acquisition-stages/#comment-313783</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carese Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2022 00:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I found this article very informative and relatable. I was able to reflect on the growth stages of a baby and see how as they progress through each stage, they acquire their language. Knowledge of these steps will definitely help me as I prepare to teach ESL to students.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article very informative and relatable. I was able to reflect on the growth stages of a baby and see how as they progress through each stage, they acquire their language. Knowledge of these steps will definitely help me as I prepare to teach ESL to students.</p>
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